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Cuando será que entiendan que la palabra matrimonio viene de matriz lo que implica que en esa Union habrá una Union sagrada e indivisible entre dos hijos de Dios un hombre y una mujer Unidos para siempre en los hijos, si no hay hijos lo que hay es una pareja bendecida pero que no ha consumado el matrimonio al no haber engendrado hijos.no se confunda con el matrimonio", lo que a su juicio da la señal de que las parejas del mismo sexo son inferiores a las heterosexuales
Exactamente y todo lo que va contra el orden natural es satánico.Satanismo es en la práctica la reversión del orden natural
¿Cobarde qué?Quinoa escribió: Mar Dic 19, 2023 9:05 am Me parece muy cobarde que la iglesia católica se aleja de la leyes naturales para poder adaptarse a los tiempos de la Sodoma y Gomorra moderna y tratar de no perder adeptos en vez de luchar por sus fundamentos.
IGLESIAS PROTESTANTES-EVANGELICAS QUE BENDICEN EL MATRIMONIO GAY
Pentecostal
Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals
Gay Apostolic Pentecostals
Presbyterian
Presbyterian Church (USA)[82]
Reformed
Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)[83]
Reformed Church in America[84] NOTE: Gay pastors may serve congregations if they were ordained in another denomination; some member churches allow gay marriage.
United Church of Christ[85]
United Church of Canada Each individual congregation decides for itself whether or not to be affirming or to solemnize same sex marriages. Over 150 United Church congregations are either Affirming or are in the process of becoming Affirming congregations. There are a number of other church bodies (some Presbyteries and Conferences) that have been designated as Affirming. (see #Methodist)
Community of Christ[86]
Disciples of Christ
Friends General Conference (Quakers)[87]
International Council of Community Churches[88]
Mennonite Church Canada[89] NOTE: Each congregation determines its own position
Mennonite Church USA[90] NOTE: Each conference determines its own position
Metropolitan Community Church[91]
Moravian Church in America Northern Province[92]
National Association of Congregational Christian Churches[93][94] NOTE: Each congregation is free to determine its own policy
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ (Salt Lake City, Utah, US) — Not affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Swedenborgian Church of North America[citation needed]
Unitarian Universalist Association[95] NOTE: Although no longer exclusively Christian, the denomination originated as such and is 'mainline'
Unity Church[96]
Spiritualism
Europe
Austria, Germany, Netherlands and Switzerland Old Catholic Church[97]
Austria: Evangelical Church of the Augsburg Confession in Austria[98]
Belgium: United Protestant Church in Belgium[99]
Croatia: Evangelical (Lutheran) Church in Croatia[citation needed]
Czech Republic: Českobratrská církev evangelická (The Evangelical Church of Czech Brethren)[100][101][102][103][104]
Czech Republic: Čeští kvakeři, z. s.[105] (Quakers)[106][107]
Czech Republic: Starokatolická církev v České republice (Old Catholic Church)[108][109]
Denmark: Church of Denmark[110]
France: United Protestant Church of France[111]
Finland: Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland[112] NOTE: The church permits prayers of celebration following a civil union or marriage
Germany: German Lutheran, reformed and united churches in Evangelical Church in Germany[113]
Germany: The Social Ethics Ministry of the Central Conference of the United Methodist Church in Germany[114]
Germany: Catholic Diocese of the Old Catholics in Germany[115]
Iceland: Church of Iceland[116]
Italy: Lutheran Evangelical Church in Italy (CELI)[117][118]
Italy: Union of Methodist and Waldensian Churches[119][120]
Ireland: Church of Ireland[121][122][123] NOTE: Two former archbishops of Dublin, two diocesan bishops, and several congregations affirm LGBTI people in the Republic.
Ireland: Non-subscribing Presbyterian Church of Ireland[124]
Ireland: Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)[125] Quakers in Ireland allow their meetings to celebrate same-sex marriage but do not require meetings or members to take part.
Ireland: Unitarian Church in Ireland[126]
Netherlands: Protestant Church in the Netherlands NOTE: to be decided by the local church council,[127] a map exists showing local churches affirming LGBT [128]
Netherlands: Remonstrantse Broederschap [127]
Netherlands: Mennonite Church in the Netherlands[129]
Nordic and Baltic Episcopal Area Conferences of the United Methodist Church[130]
Norway: Church of Norway[131]
Poland: Christian United Church in Poland[132]
Spain: Spanish Reformed Episcopal Church and Spanish Evangelical Church[133]
Sweden:
Church of Sweden[134]
Switzerland:
Latin America
Argentina - Evangelical Church of the River Plate[citation needed]
Argentina - United Evangelical Lutheran Church[citation needed]
Argentina - Evangelical Methodist Church in Argentina[citation needed]
Brazil - Anglican Episcopal Church of Brazil
Brazil - Christian Community of God (Authenticists)[citation needed]
Brazil - Anglican Episcopal Church of Brazil (since 1998)[166]
Brazil - Evangelical Church of the Lutheran Confession in Brazil[citation needed]
Brazil - United Presbiterian Church[citation needed]
Chile - Evangelical Lutheran Church of Chile[167]
Chile - Lutheran Church in Chile[168]
Colombia - Methodist Church of Colombia Openly LGBTQ+ pastors may serve in churches and also same-sex/same-gender weddings can be celebrated.
Costa Rica - Costa Rican Lutheran Church[169]
Costa Rica - Episcopal Church of Costa Rica[170]
Cuba - Episcopal Church of Cuba[171]
El Salvador - Episcopal Anglican Church of El Salvador[172]
Peru - Lutheran Church of Peru[173]
Mexico - Anglican Church of Mexico NOTE: The Church currently defines marriage between a man and a woman. Clergy have been allowed to be in same-sex relationships. On 2020, three bishops released a statement explaining that they are discussing issues related to the LGBT community and church teaching, and are working towards a common understanding. One bishop has openly spoken in support of same-sex marriage, and became the first Anglican bishop in the country to participate along his diocese in an LGBT Pride Parade in 2021.
Mexico - Metropolitan Community Churches in Mexico
Mexico - Ecumenical Catholic Church[174]
Mexico - Mision Cristiana Incluyente [175]
Uruguay - Evangelical Church of Uruguay[citation needed]
Australia
Affirming congregations within the Anglican Church of Australia[176][177] NOTE: The Diocese of Perth, and other bodies, have voted to support same-sex relationships[178] The Diocese of Gippsland appointed an openly and partnered gay priest.[179] Though the Anglican Church of Australia does not have an official policy on homosexuality,[180] in the Seventeenth Session of the General Synod of the Anglican Church of Australia in 2017, the Anglican Church of Australia passed a motion recognising "that the doctrine of our church, in line with traditional Christian teaching, is that marriage is an exclusive and lifelong union of a man and a woman, and further, recognises that this has been the subject of several General Synod resolutions over the past fifteen years".[181] In 2018, the Primate of Australia and Archbishop of Melbourne, Philip Freier, released an ad clerum reiterating the current position that clergy cannot perform a same-sex marriage.[182]
Uniting Church in Australia[183][184]
United Ecumenical Catholic Church in Australia[185]
Metropolitan Community Church[91]
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)[158]
Baptist Church of Australia - some Baptist congregations in Australia
Universal Church of Love, Peace & Equality Inc [186]
New Zealand
Anglican Church in New Zealand[187] NOTE: As of 2018, clergy may bless a same-sex union.[188] In 2014, the Anglican church voted to start a process toward allowing the blessing of same-sex relationships. The Dunedin Diocese already offers a "Liturgy for the Blessing of a Relationship" irrespective of gender.[189] The Anglican province has approved of allowing clergy "'to recognise in public worship' a same-gender civil union or state marriage of members of their faith community" with the bishop's permission.[190]
Metropolitan Community Church in New Zealand[191]
Presbyterian Church in Aotearoa New Zealand[192] NOTE: Individual congregations may be affirming, but the denomination is not affirming.
Methodist Church in New Zealand
Uniting Congregations in New Zealand NOTE: Individual congregations may be affirming, but the denomination is not affirming.[citation needed]
Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in New Zealand[citation needed]
Community of Christ (The Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) in Auckland, and Christchurch, New Zealand. Not affiliated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
Open Table Ministries in Auckland, New Zealand
Some Baptist Churches - Ponsonby Baptist Church, and Cityside Baptist Church (Mt Eden), both in Auckland, New Zealand.[citation needed]
Auckland Rainbow Community Church[193]
Individual churches and congregations (US)
AChurch4Me (Chicago, Illinois)[194]
All Saints Parish (Minot, North Dakota)[195]
Baptist Church of the Covenant (Birmingham, Alabama)[196]
Broadway United Methodist Church (Indianapolis, Indiana)[197]
Canterbury Chapel (Tuscaloosa, Alabama)[198]
Cathedral of Hope (Dallas, Texas)[199]
Celebration Community Church (Fort Worth, Texas)[200]
Central Christian Church (Bradenton, Florida)[201]
Chain of Lakes Church (Blaine, Minnesota)[202]
Chewelah United Church of Christ (Chewelah, Washington)[203]
Christ Chapel of the Valley (Los Angeles, California)[204]
Christ the Solid Rock Baptist Church in Madison (National Baptist Convention, USA Inc.)[205]Homepage
Church of the Ascension (Frankfort, Kentucky)[206]
Church on Main (Middletown, Delaware)[207]
Church of St. Luke and The Epiphany (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania)[208]
Church of the Apostles (Oro Valley, Arizona)[209]
Church of Christian Spiritualism & Lifestyle (Washington state)[210][211][212][213]
Church of the Valley (Van Nuys, California)[214]
Episcopal Church of the Mediator (Meridian, Mississippi)[215]
First Christian Church (Bentonville, Arkansas)[216]
First Church of Christ (Avon, Connecticut)
First Congregational Church of Akron (Akron, Ohio)[217]
First Presbyterian Church (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania)[218]
Fondren Presbyterian Church (Jackson, Mississippi)[219]
Forward Christian Life Center (Trinity, Alabama)[220]
Glendale City Seventh-day Adventist Church (Glendale, California)[221]
Glendale United Methodist Church (Nashville, Tennessee)[222] Church website
Glide Memorial Church (San Francisco, California)[223]
GracePointe Church (Nashville, Tennessee)[224][225]
Greenland Hills United Methodist Church (Dallas, Texas)[226]
Hollywood Adventist Church (Los Angeles, California)[227]
Hagia Sophia Gnostic Church (Seattle, Washington)[228] Ecclesia Gnostica
Light of Love Fellowship (St. Louis, Missouri)[229]
Lutheran Church of Hope (Anchorage, Alaska)[230]
Northside Baptist Church (Clinton, Mississippi)[231]
McPherson Church of the Brethren (McPherson, Kansas)[232]
New Day Lutheran Church (Idaho Falls, Idaho)[233]
Olivet-Schwenkfelder United Church of Christ (East Norriton Township, Pennsylvania)[234]
Peace Mennonite Church (Lawrence, Kansas)[235]
People's United Church of Christ (Fargo, North Dakota)[236]
Pullen Memorial Baptist Church (Raleigh, North Carolina)[237]
Raleigh Mennonite Church (Raleigh, North Carolina)[238] Church website
Riverside Church at Park and King (Jacksonville, Florida)[239] Church website
San Marco Church (Jacksonville, Florida)[240]
Seattle First Baptist Church (Seattle, Washington)[241]
St. Aidan of Lindisfarne Celtic Church Maui, Hawaii
St. Paul's Episcopal Church (Fayetteville, Arkansas)[242]
St. Stephen's Episcopal Church (Longview, Washington)[243]
Trinity Episcopal Church (St. Louis, Missouri)[244]
Union Church (Berea, Kentucky)[245]
United Church at Hyde Park (Chicago, Illinois)[246]
Unity Fellowship of Christ Church (Los Angeles, California)[247]
University Baptist Church (Austin, Texas)[248]
Walnut Creek United Methodist Church (Walnut Creek, California)[249]
The Well Church (Chandler, Arizona)[250]
The Woven Church (Lexington, Kentucky)[251]
Individual churches and congregations (international)
City United Reformed Church (Cardiff, Wales)[252]
The Gathering - Cardiff (Cardiff, Wales) [253]
Christ Church Cathedral (Anglican Church of Australia)[254]
Christ Church Cathedral (Church of Ireland)[255]
Danish Church of Buenos Aires, Argentina[256]
Garneau United Church (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada). Church website.
Kabahaghari United Methodists of the Philippines[257]
Khandallah Presbyterian Church[192]
McDougall United Church (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)[258]
Millwoods United Church (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada). Church website.
Misión San Francisco de Asís in the Anglican Church of Mexico[259]
Náboženská obec Církve československé husitské v Brně-Maloměřicích[260] (street Selská 16/53,[261] Brno, Moravia, Czech Republic)[262][263]
Oriented to Christ (Hong Kong)[264]
Journey Community Church, Downpatrick and Antrim, (Northern Ireland, UK)
Robertson-Wesley United Church (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada).[265]
Sherwood Park United Church (Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada). Church website.
Southminster-Steinhauer United Church (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada). Church website.
Southwark Cathedral (Church of England)[266]
St. Albert United Church (St. Alberta, Alberta, Canada)
St. Andrew's Church, Subiaco, Perth, Australia in the Anglican Diocese of Perth[267]
St. Andrew's Church on the Terrace in the Presbyterian Church of Aotearoa New Zealand[268]
St. Andrew's United Church (Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada). Church website.
St. Andrew's United Church (Lacombe, Alberta, Canada). Church website.
St. David's Presbyterian Church in Auckland[192]
St. John's and St. Andrew's at Waterloo (Church of England)[269]
St. John's Cathedral (Anglican Church of Australia)[citation needed]
St. Mark's Anglican Church (Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico) - a bilingual congregation[citation needed]
St. Barnabas, Bethnal Green - Diocese of London (Church of England)[citation needed]
St. Mary, London (Church of England) [270]
St. Mary and St. Nicholas, Spalding (Church of England)[271]
St. Mary's Battersea (Church of England)[272]
St. Pancras Church (Church of England)[273]
St. Patrick's Cathedral (Church of Ireland)[255]
Tong-Kwang Light House Presbyterian Church (Taipei, Taiwan)[citation needed]
St. Paul's Anglican Church (Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada)[citation needed]
St. Paul's United Church (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
Ekklesia Tou Theou (Church of God) (Cavite, Philippines)[citation needed]
Open Doors Community Church (Seoul, South Korea)[citation needed]
York Minster (Church of England)[274]
Cityside Baptist Church (Mt Eden) (Auckland, New Zealand)[citation needed]
Ponsonby Baptist Church (Auckland, New Zealand)[citation needed]
Denomination-sanctioned programmes
The following denominations have LGBT-welcoming or affirming programmes, though not all churches within the denomination are necessarily members of the LGBT programme.[citation needed]
esto me suena mas como a un cantinfleo:Buzz escribió: Mar Dic 19, 2023 10:30 am ...
En contraste, la ICAR declara oficialmente sobre esto: no pueden bendecirse las relaciones homosexuales, pues subvierte el orden divino, a la par de aclarar que si pueden bendecirse las personas en razón de que tal bendición sirva para que estas tornen sus vidas a Dios. No entiendo porque insistir en criticas sobre cosas que la ICAR no formula.
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No opinan porque son activistas políticos y si opinaran sería puro o***io por esa jeta. Lander es el forista con más o***io y resentimiento que tenemos en el foro.Tupac Amaru escribió: Mar Dic 19, 2023 3:04 pm Por qué La fuerza y Lander no opinan en este tema? Seria bueno conocer sus opiniones en cuanto a esa "bencición" que brinda el catolicismo a los pansexuales
Eso se entiende, que Lander es alguien que no opina desde la claridad de un razonamiento complejo, pero siendo él activista de la comunidad Gay seria bueno saber cual es su postura con relación al hecho que se traduce en que el Catolicismo le esta expresando que no lo o****ia, sino por el contrario en reconocimiento a todo ese mal que se la causado por siglos a ese sector tan perturbado y resentido, consecuencia de las religiones, ahora se les va a bendecir, como ha debido ser siempre.aquisipasanada escribió: Mar Dic 19, 2023 3:42 pmNo opinan porque son activistas políticos y si opinaran sería puro o***io por esa jeta. Lander es el forista con más o***io y resentimiento que tenemos en el foro.Tupac Amaru escribió: Mar Dic 19, 2023 3:04 pm Por qué La fuerza y Lander no opinan en este tema? Seria bueno conocer sus opiniones en cuanto a esa "bencición" que brinda el catolicismo a los pansexuales
Es decir condena la homosexualidad, y puede considerarse un peccado. Sin embargo, la doctrina cristiana habla mucho del perdón de los pecadosNo te echarás con varón como con mujer; es abominación.
Jesús dijo:
—Ni yo te condeno. Ahora vete, y no vuelvas a pecar.
Pues si, claro. Un Sacerdote no puede ni debe negarle su bendición a ningun homosexual. Dios aborrece el pecado, no al pecador. Pero otra cosa es bendecir (que no es matrimonio ni casamiento) a una pareja homosexual, por ser parejas. Dos personas que deciden convivir juntas como pareja, entre otras cosas comparten su sexualidad mutuamente, ¿Es correcto que un Sacerdote bendiga a quienes obviamente mantienen y seguirán manteniendo relaciones contranatura y catalogadas por Dios mismo en la misma Biblia como pecaminosas?Buzz escribió: Mar Dic 19, 2023 10:30 am
En contraste, la ICAR declara oficialmente sobre esto: no pueden bendecirse las relaciones homosexuales, pues subvierte el orden divino, a la par de aclarar que si pueden bendecirse las personas en razón de que tal bendición sirva para que estas tornen sus vidas a Dios. No entiendo porque insistir en criticas sobre cosas que la ICAR no formula.
Cristo vino a sanar al enfermo, y ¿que mas enfermo que quien peca en su carne? Si alguien, en la fosa que ha cavado con su pecado busca la bendición de Dios, ¿es la respuesta negar tal bendición? La bendición permitida por el Dicasterio de la Fe no es una bendición a la relación, sino a la persona en situación de pecado y que busca acercarse a Dios.
Entiendo que para un ignorante confeso, que gusta hablar paja que por substrato tiene una imagignación intoxicada por el demonio, las cosas de la fe suenen complejas, inescrutables. Pero es asi, ese es uno de los castigos que recibe quien desprecia la filiación divina, y escoge en su lugar el vasallaje bajo el yugo del demonio.Axio escribió: Mar Dic 19, 2023 3:33 pm
esto me suena mas como a un cantinfleo:
el ICAR o bendice o no bendice, no se puede bendecir lo que no se puede bendecir. Católica y socialmente una bendición implica una aceptación o aprobación, como cuando en tiempos de maria castaña, el novio iba a la casa de los suegros a pedir la bendición (la aprobación) de los padres de la novia.....
ahora so el padre de la novia acepta al novio pero solo por el billete, mas no la boda..... entonces ahí si me la ganas,.... tendría mas logica el sofisma del ICAR....
Es documento emanado es enfático en esta materia:Yo-Yo escribió: Mar Dic 19, 2023 7:34 pm Pero otra cosa es bendecir (que no es matrimonio ni casamiento) a una pareja homosexual, por ser parejas. Dos personas que deciden convivir juntas como pareja, entre otras cosas comparten su sexualidad mutuamente, ¿Es correcto que un Sacerdote bendiga a quienes obviamente mantienen y seguirán manteniendo relaciones contranatura y catalogadas por Dios mismo en la misma Biblia como pecaminosas?
La bendición tiene por objeto precisamente facilitar un acercamiento entre quien por su condición de pecado se ha apartado a Dios, para que sea elevado a este. Esto Yo-yo es precisamente la misión de la Iglesia, llevar la redención de Cristo a quien la necesita. Cristo no vino al mundo para sanar al que esta sano, sino precisamente para sanar al enfermo. ¿Cómo puede esta misión llevarse a cabo al tiempo de alienar el objeto de la misma? Esto sencillamente es insensato.Bendición a quienes reconociéndose desamparados y necesitados de su ayuda, no pretenden la legitimidad de su propio status, sino que ruegan que todo lo que hay de verdadero, bueno y humanamente válido en sus vidas y relaciones, sea investido, santificado y elevado por la presencia del Espíritu Santo".
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¿La condenó? No. Entonces, si al menos estuvo neutral,